was there unnecessary roughness by rand paul or john mccain? rand paul specifically talking about the fact the consulate should have been guarded as if it were a declared war zone. >> first of all, the democrats treated this almost like a testimonial dinner. it reminded me more of 10-year-old soccer where everybody gets a trophy, besides performance on the field. i think, though, senator paul missed an opportunity to use to ask tough questions, and instead, used it as a political ad. the only adult, i thought, in the room was john mccain, who did ask tough questions, and the only response from hillary clinton was let's agree that we disagree. >> is this, nia malika, the first step, the 2:00 p.m. testimony is coming up, but the first step is the clearing and vindication of the secretary, who hasn't been able to testify because of health reasons until now. >> yeah, we'll have to see what happens at 2:00 p.m. in this second hearing, but i think, you know, to her credit, i think she in some ways was able to remain above the fray. she had some tough